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@Keno Keno commented Jan 5, 2025

As requested in #56933, acknowledge that this error was missing in Julia 1.9 and 1.10 and provide a reference to the issue so that people have an easier starting point.

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giordano commented Jan 5, 2025

Should this be backported to v1.11?

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Keno commented Jan 5, 2025

Yes, you beat me to it ;).

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jl_errorf("Global %s.%s does not exist and cannot be assigned.\n"
"Note: Julia 1.9 and 1.10 inadvertently omitted this error check (#56933).\n"
"Hint: Declare it using `global` before attempting assignment.", jl_symbol_name(m->name), jl_symbol_name(var));
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jl_errorf("Global %s.%s does not exist and cannot be assigned.\n"
"Note: Julia 1.9 and 1.10 inadvertently omitted this error check (#56933).\n"
"Hint: Declare it using `global` before attempting assignment.", jl_symbol_name(m->name), jl_symbol_name(var));
jl_errorf("Global %s.%s does not exist and cannot be assigned.\n"
"Note: Julia 1.9 and 1.10 inadvertently omitted this error check, meaning it was possible to write `{module}.{var} = {value}` without a preceding `:global`.\n"
"Hint: Declare it using `global` before attempting assignment:\n"
" ```\n"
" %s.eval(Expr(:global, :%s)\n"
" %s.%s = ...\n"
" ```",
jl_symbol_name(m->name), jl_symbol_name(var),
jl_symbol_name(m->name), jl_symbol_name(var),
jl_symbol_name(m->name), jl_symbol_name(var));

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This is just to clarify things, as when I first tried this I thought I could do

global A.x

based on the error message, before realising I needed to evaluate global inside A.

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My primary concern with being too explicit here is that there are other paths that reach this error, not just the frontend syntax, so if you reach it through one of those paths, that error will be confusing.

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I don't think my issue needs to be linked in the error though. Just something to:

  1. Help people update their code (the "declare using global" should be more precise), and
  2. Let them know that this syntax used to work, it wasn't their imagination or mistake

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How about Hint: Declare it using `global %s` inside `%s` before attempting assignment.

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In particular f() = (Main.x = 1) and f() = (global x = 1) are not equivalent, because Main could be redefined later.

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Makes sense. I’m just trying to figure out how to use the exact mechanism the REPL uses for this. Because then we can just use that inside PythonCall to communicate new globals.

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When you write x = 1, the REPL does the moral equivalent of Core.eval(Main, :(x = 1)). Since there's no Main., the global gets introduced automatically at definition time.

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Calling Core.eval(::Module, Expr(:global, sym)) should be perfectly fine here though, as there isn't any opportunity to optimize this code anyways (it is python), and is what x=1 expands to normally. As Keno mentioned, we should add a builtin too (similar to setglobal, there should be a declareglobal and declareconst functions), so that you don't need the awkward eval form for them, but that is merely a difference in spelling of the operation

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Got it, thanks for the detailed discussion on this.

As requested in #56933, acknowledge that this error was missing in Julia 1.9 and 1.10
and provide a reference to the issue so that people have an easier starting point.
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Backported PRs:
- [x] #54840 <!-- Add boundscheck in speccache_eq to avoid OOB access
due to data race -->
- [x] #42080 <!-- recommend explicit `using Foo: Foo, ...` in package
code (was: "using considered harmful") -->
- [x] #58127 <!-- [DOC] Update installation docs: /downloads/ =>
/install/ -->
- [x] #58202 <!-- [release-1.11] malloc: use jl_get_current_task to fix
null check -->
- [x] #58584 <!-- Make `Ptr` values static-show w/ type-information -->
- [x] #58637 <!-- Make late gc lower handle insertelement of alloca use.
-->
- [x] #58837 <!-- fix null comparisons for non-standard address spaces
-->
- [x] #57826 <!-- Add a `similar` method for `Type{<:CodeUnits}` -->
- [x] #58293 <!-- fix trailing indices stackoverflow in reinterpreted
array -->
- [x] #58887 <!-- Pkg: Allow configuring can_fancyprint(io::IO) using
IOContext -->
- [x] #58937 <!-- Fix nthreadpools size in JLOptions -->
- [x] #58978 <!-- Fix precompilepkgs warn loaded setting -->
- [x] #58998 <!-- Bugfix: Use Base.aligned_sizeof instead of sizeof in
Mmap.mmap -->
- [x] #59120 <!-- Fix memory order typo in "src/julia_atomics.h" -->
- [x] #59170 <!-- Clarify and enhance confusing precompile test -->

Need manual backport:
- [ ] #56329 <!-- loading: clean up more concurrency issues -->
- [ ] #56956 <!-- Add "mea culpa" to foreign module assignment error.
-->
- [ ] #57035 <!-- linux: workaround to avoid deadlock inside
dl_iterate_phdr in glibc -->
- [ ] #57089 <!-- Block thread from receiving profile signal with
stackwalk lock -->
- [ ] #57249 <!-- restore non-freebsd-unix fix for profiling -->
- [ ] #58011 <!-- Remove try-finally scope from `@time_imports`
`@trace_compile` `@trace_dispatch` -->
- [ ] #58062 <!-- remove unnecessary edge from `exp_impl` to `pow` -->
- [ ] #58157 <!-- add showing a string to REPL precompile workload -->
- [ ] #58209 <!-- Specialize `one` for the `SizedArray` test helper -->
- [ ] #58108 <!-- Base.get_extension & Dates.format made public -->
- [ ] #58356 <!-- codegen: remove readonly from abstract type calling
convention -->
- [ ] #58415 <!-- [REPL] more reliable extension loading -->
- [ ] #58510 <!-- Don't filter `Core` methods from newly-inferred list
-->
- [ ] #58110 <!-- relax dispatch for the `IteratorSize` method for
`Generator` -->
- [ ] #58965 <!-- Fix `hygienic-scope`s in inner macro expansions -->
- [ ] #58971 <!-- Fix alignment of failed precompile jobs on CI -->
- [ ] #59066 <!-- build: Also pass -fno-strict-aliasing for C++ -->

Contains multiple commits, manual intervention needed:
- [ ] #55877 <!-- fix FileWatching designs and add workaround for a stat
bug on Apple -->
- [ ] #56755 <!-- docs: fix scope type of a `struct` to hard -->
- [ ] #57809 <!-- Fix fptrunc Float64 -> Float16 rounding through
Float32 -->
- [ ] #57398 <!-- Make remaining float intrinsics require float
arguments -->
- [ ] #56351 <!-- Fix `--project=@script` when outside script directory
-->
- [ ] #57129 <!-- clarify that time_ns is monotonic -->
- [ ] #58134 <!-- Note annotated string API is experimental in Julia
1.11 in HISTORY.md -->
- [ ] #58401 <!-- check that hashing of types does not foreigncall
(`jl_type_hash` is concrete evaluated) -->
- [ ] #58435 <!-- Fix layout flags for types that have oddly sized
primitive type fields -->
- [ ] #58483 <!-- Fix tbaa usage when storing into heap allocated
immutable structs -->
- [ ] #58512 <!-- Make more types jl_static_show readably -->
- [ ] #58012 <!-- Re-enable tab completion of kwargs for large method
tables -->
- [ ] #58683 <!-- Add 0 predecessor to entry basic block and handle it
in inlining -->
- [ ] #59112 <!-- Add builtin function name to add methods error -->

Non-merged PRs with backport label:
- [ ] #59329 <!-- aotcompile: destroy LLVM context after serializing
combined module -->
- [ ] #58848 <!-- Set array size only when safe to do so -->
- [ ] #58535 <!-- gf.c: include const-return methods in
`--trace-compile` -->
- [ ] #58038 <!-- strings/cstring: `transcode`: prevent Windows sysimage
invalidation -->
- [ ] #57604 <!-- `@nospecialize` for `string_index_err` -->
- [ ] #57366 <!-- Use ptrdiff_t sized offsets for gvars_offsets to allow
large sysimages -->
- [ ] #56890 <!-- Enable getting non-boxed LLVM type from Julia Type -->
- [ ] #56823 <!-- Make version of opaque closure constructor in world
-->
- [ ] #55958 <!-- also redirect JL_STDERR etc. when redirecting to
devnull -->
- [ ] #55956 <!-- Make threadcall gc safe -->
- [ ] #55534 <!-- Set stdlib sources as read-only during installation
-->
- [ ] #55499 <!-- propagate the terminal's `displaysize` to the
`IOContext` used by the REPL -->
- [ ] #55458 <!-- Allow for generically extracting unannotated string
-->
- [ ] #55457 <!-- Make AnnotateChar equality consider annotations -->
- [ ] #55220 <!-- `isfile_casesensitive` fixes on Windows -->
- [ ] #53957 <!-- tweak how filtering is done for what packages should
be precompiled -->
- [ ] #51479 <!-- prevent code loading from lookin in the versioned
environment when building Julia -->
- [ ] #50813 <!-- More doctests for Sockets and capitalization fix -->
- [ ] #50157 <!-- improve docs for `@inbounds` and
`Base.@propagate_inbounds` -->

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