Soft-Boiled in SWSH

[Joseph11024]

I could be wrong but everything I’ve looked up says that the move Soft-Boiled is not available in SWSH.

I came across this issue when someone created a Clefable from Gen 3 with soft boiled in SWSH. The move is not in the game according to everything online but the move still shows up and is usable in game PKHex also does not detect as illegal. I guess there is a bug in the game itself that allows it and that’s why y’all have it as legal idk. Just wanted to point it out just in case.

[sora10pls]

In SWSH, unusable moves are still able to appear in movesets when a Pokémon transferred from past games has those moves. Move resetting on entry to a new game, as a concept, did not exist until the release of BDSP, where that is the standard for future games replacing moves with those that a Pokémon would know at its current level.

Moves that are unusable in-game but can still exist in a given moveset are tagged with a ⚠️ icon.

For what it's worth, though, Soft-Boiled is usable in every game. Are you mixing it up with another move?

[Joseph11024]

But the move is usable for some reason.

[sora10pls]

Correct, Soft-Boiled has never been flagged as a move that can not be used. I'm unsure what the problem is.

[Joseph11024]

I’m just confused because this is the information that I’m finding online, given this information could be false but I haven’t seen anything to contradict this info.

In FireRed/LeafGreen/Emerald (Gen 3), Clefairy could learn Soft-Boiled from a Move Tutor.
If transferred through Pal Park (Gen 4) → Poké Transporter (Gen 5) → Pokémon Bank (Gen 6/7) → Pokémon HOME (Gen 8), it could retain Soft-Boiled.
However, Soft-Boiled is no longer in SwSh’s move data, meaning it should be removed upon transfer

[sora10pls]

Soft-Boiled was not flagged as not usable in SWSH, though. The issue is that you are mistakenly assuming that the move is not usable in the game, even though it is.

[Joseph11024]

Ok it must be the information online is false then.

[Lusamine]

However, Soft-Boiled is no longer in SwSh’s move data, meaning it should be removed upon transfer

Also worth noting that SWSH has never deleted moves upon import from past gens, only from other Switch games. It keeps moves even if they don't work. I have no idea what "everything online" you are reading as a reference but it seems to be very inaccurate.

[Joseph11024]

Seems so. This came from serebi and a couple of other random sites.

[Lusamine]

Serebii does not list Soft-Boiled as a removed move in Gen 8.
https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-swsh/soft-boiled.shtml

It's also listed as an eligible transfer move for Clefable.
https://www.serebii.net/pokedex-swsh/clefable/

EDIT: This page listing unusable moves in SWSH doesn't list Soft-Boiled either.
https://www.serebii.net/swordshield/unusableattacks.shtml

[MrPerson0]

Seems so. This came from serebi and a couple of other random sites.

I would always recommend to check Bulbapedia first, but I don't think Serebii says Soft-boiled is unusable in SwSh: https://www.serebii.net/attackdex-swsh/soft-boiled.shtml

[Joseph11024]

Ah ok I must have missed that part.